In all my yard runs I have only seen the tray on MK II's on car with out air conditioning. I have A/C on my car. But I custom fitted one to my car. Looks like it was installed from the factory. It can be done. Later Dave 85 Scirocco GTX -- To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe scirocco-l" to majordomo@scirocco.org. If you experience other problems, email: scirocco-l-probs@scirocco.org