Re: Play in top of front strut.... what could it be? is it dangerous?

["Paul J. Dorion" <pjdorion@comnet.ca>]

Tower bearings worn out.... replaced, no more play, still have that damn
bounce though....next time money comes our way i guess!


-----Original Message-----
From: Neal Tovsen <ntovsen@piper.hamline.edu>
To: Paul J. Dorion <pjdorion@comnet.ca>
Cc: Scirocco List <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Date: 5 juillet, 1999 03:49
Subject: RE: Play in top of front strut.... what could it be? is it
dangerous?


>Sounds like you're on the way to finding it. If it is the strut issue, then
>it should be fixed with the new inserts. Hope that's it!
>
>Neal
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Paul J. Dorion [mailto:pjdorion@comnet.ca]
>> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 1999 11:07 AM
>> To: Neal Tovsen
>> Cc: Brian Honnold; Scirocco List
>> Subject: Re: Play in top of front strut.... what could it be? is it
>> dangerous?
>>
>>
>> BAll joints are OK wheel bearings, OK there is just this slight
>> misalignment
>> and the play at the top of the strut where it is fastened to the body,
>> (under the hood 7/8" nut) looked into motor mounts this spring
>> and they were
>> ok, the shake (bounce) has been there for quite a while and I have done
>> quite a bit to have it diagnosed, and corrected but to no
>> avail.(new tires,
>> checked rims, balnced all tires twice in different garages,even had the
>> brakes looked into,checked and lubed bearings and joints) One strut is
>> leaking, to be repaired this coming monday.(replacing all 4 inserts) any
>> recommendations?
>>
>>
>>  My baby is going to spend a day at the Spa on monday, (East Motors, in
>> Ottawa, Kristian is just great with the VW's) and hopefully after
>> going over
>> everything with a fine tooth comb we will have a solution and I
>> will be able
>> to push her beyond 90 MPH without worrying about the car falling apart
due
>> to the vibration.
>>
>> Maintenance schedule is as follows:
>>
>> Flush cooling system
>> Oil Change and lube
>> Replace air filter with K&N
>> Check tune up and emissions (re&re necessary parts)
>> Replace 4 strut inserts
>> Alignment and dynamic balancing
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Neal Tovsen <ntovsen@piper.hamline.edu>
>> To: Paul J. Dorion <pjdorion@comnet.ca>
>> Cc: Brian Honnold <bhonnold@pac-cap.com>; Scirocco List
>> <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>> Date: 2 juillet, 1999 14:41
>> Subject: Re: Play in top of front strut.... what could it be? is it
>> dangerous?
>>
>>
>> >
>> >Ordinarily, I might think that the bouncing steering wheel is a sign of
>> >bad motor mounts, but there are two things that make me think otherwise.
>> >First, does the dash bounce with the wheel, or is it *just* the wheel?
>> >Also, your explanation makes it sound as though you don't get this
bounce
>> >when you aren't moving. If that's true, there is definitely something
>> >wrong with your steering/suspension/wheels. If your wheels are balanced,
>> >that leaves your steering and suspension.
>> >
>> >I didn't quite understand your initial explanation of the play in the
>> >strut, but I would say that *any* play is probably bad! If your
alignment
>> >is slightly off, the periodic cycle of the bouncing could be
>> attributed to
>> >worn steering joints in combination with the strut play. The worn
>> >steering joints may cause your car to cycle through periods of
>> >alignment/misalignment at high speeds. Moving between states of
>> >alignment/misalignment would cause various loads/stresses to be placed
on
>> >your struts. At some point in this cycle, the load on the strut may be
>> >such that the strut is allowed to jiggle in that bit of play at
>> the tower,
>> >causing the bounce in your steering wheel.
>> >
>> >This is all hypothetical, of course, but from your explanation I would
>> >deduce that you should get your strut issue fixed and check for worn
>> >steering joints. Replacing your joints would also mean an alignment,
>> >which would fix your alignment issue, too.
>> >
>> >Again, I can't quite picture where you say the play is in your strut,
but
>> >you really need to take a look at it to determine if it is still safe to
>> >drive. If it's worn, you're probably OK for another week. If something
is
>> >*loose*, then you definitely want to tighten it up. Having a strut fall
>> >off while your driving would probably be a bad thing. ;-)
>> >
>> >Good luck! Let me know if I was on the right track...
>> >
>> >Neal
>> >88 16v
>> >
>> >On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Paul J. Dorion wrote:
>> >
>> >> The shaking is like a bouncing going on in the steering wheel, it
comes
>> and
>> >> goes in a periodic cycle at steady speeds above 70mph. the wheels have
>> been
>> >> balanced and checked for crookedness.
>> >>
>> >> The alignement is a wee bit off... but it is very negligeable... could
>> that
>> >> really be it?
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Brian Honnold <bhonnold@pac-cap.com>
>> >> To: 'Paul J. Dorion' <pjdorion@comnet.ca>; Scirocco List
>> >> <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>> >> Date: 2 juillet, 1999 12:50
>> >> Subject: RE: Play in top of front strut.... what could it be? is it
>> >> dangerous?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >The shaking is more likely caused by the alignment being
>> slightly off or
>> >> >the tires not balanced correctly or unevenly worn.
>> >> >
>> >> >Could you describe the shake.  If you feel it in the steering wheel
it
>> is
>> >> >probably the from suspension somwhere.  If you feel it in
>> your butt it's
>> >> >probably the rear tires out of balance.
>> >> >
>> >> >Brian Honnold
>> >> >'78 Rocco Ragtop
>> >> >'99 Passat GLX
>> >> >
>> >> >On Friday, July 02, 1999 8:54 AM, Paul J. Dorion
>> [SMTP:pjdorion@comnet.ca]
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >> Here's the poop, anyone that can answer this would be a great
help..
>> >> >>
>> >> >> There is less than 1/16 of an inch play on the top of the strut
>> between
>> >> >the top mounting plate and the bottom of the nut that fastens it. Is
>> this
>> >> >dangerous, I have to drive about 400 km today and I don't have the
>> >> >ressources to fix my suspension until next week.This Roc is
>> Stock. Help!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Could this be causing the shake I experience at 125-140 km/h (70-85
>> mph)?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 86 8V Stock Rocco (Maroon)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Paul J. Dorion
>> >> >> Pro Audio Consultant
>> >> >> Dexx Design
>> >> >> pjdorion@comnet.ca
>> >> >>
>> >> >>  << File: ATT00000.html >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >
>> > Neal Tovsen
>> >
>> >
>>
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