RE: 16v purchasing - what to look for?

["Neal Tovsen" <ntovsen@piper.hamline.edu>]

Personally, I'm not sure I would want a lower 1st or 2nd gear. The 16v RPM
range is so narrow that you need the close-ratio tranny to keep it in the
upper RPMs. I'm guessing that your RPMs drop more than mine after a gear
change, so it probably doesn't stay as much in the optimum range. I might
sacrifice a little right off the line in first compared to you, but as soon
as my RPMs come up, they never go down again. Then again, I figure if I
still have trouble avoiding wheel-spin in 1st, I must limited by the tires
and my ability, since the engine obviously has enough uumph to push the
tires to the limit, right? If that's true, I just need a little more work
with my gas/clutch movement. A 2.0 block might change all that talk about
narrow RPM range, though.

This is all purely logical deduction, so I may be talkin' outta my arse
here...

Neal

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Coracini [mailto:Coracin@usdl.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 1999 2:32 PM
> To: 'Neal Tovsen'; Scirocco-L (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: 16v purchasing - what to look for?
>
>
> sorry, i was just comparing engines, my mistake.  then again, i
> have a 2H in
> mine, so i guess i have the best of both worlds?
>
> chris
> 86 16V scirocco
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Neal Tovsen [SMTP:ntovsen@piper.hamline.edu]
> > Sent:	Thursday, February 25, 1999 3:13 PM
> > To:	Chris Coracini; Scirocco-L (E-mail)
> > Subject:	RE: 16v purchasing - what to look for?
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> > I don't think he actually meant "torque". Greg's 8v has some sort of
> > short-ratio tranny from a Rabbit with lower 1st and 2nd gears. Off the
> > line,
> > it does keep up with me pretty damn well. When I get into second gear,
> > though...
> >
> > Neal
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Chris Coracini [mailto:Coracin@usdl.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 25, 1999 1:12 PM
> > > To: 'Gregory Frenzel'; Neal Tovsen
> > > Cc: Scirocco-L
> > > Subject: RE: 16v purchasing - what to look for?
> > >
> > >
> > > uh oh, not start a 16V vs. 8V war...  but, i'd like to say
> > > that no where on
> > > the torque curve does the 8V make more torque than the 16V.
> > > thank you, and
> > > goodnight.
> > >
> > > chris
> > > 86 16V scirocco
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From:	Gregory Frenzel [SMTP:fren0027@tc.umn.edu]
> > > > Sent:	Thursday, February 25, 1999 1:53 PM
> > > > To:	Neal Tovsen
> > > > Cc:	Scirocco-L
> > > > Subject:	Re: 16v purchasing - what to look for?
> > > >
> > > > Your HP numbers are pretty accurate. I think its something
> > > like 90 vs.
> > > > 123.
> > > > It's a very noticable difference!
> > > >
> > > > Oh come on!!  Just put  a close ratio tranny into the 8V
> > > and suddenly you
> > > > can keep up with a 16V for, like... 30 feet or so!   Nto to
> > > mention the
> > > > torque.   Man, compared to Neal's car, I think I can feel
> > > mine practically
> > > > flip whenever I rev it up.
> > > >
> > > > Greg
> > >
>


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