If you want a better discription go here http://www.nol.net/%7Erts/mods2.html My set up is the same as Ryan's except i am using a 4'' pipe. Matt 84 8v -- To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe scirocco-l" to majordomo@scirocco.org. If you experience other problems, email: scirocco-l-probs@scirocco.org