Up here in MN we have recycling centers that have scales as you come and go . I just save up some plastic bottles and bring them in for a free weigh . My favorite wrecking yard has one also . Jasin Rice hunter -- Email problems to: scirocco-l-probs@scirocco.org To unsubscibe send "unsubscribe scirocco-l" in the message to majordomo@scirocco.org