I just dip them in oil before pushing them in like we used to on the big diesels. Seems to work fine but i don't know how the cat likes it. Josh Lukasik 88 16v 2.0 -- To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe scirocco-l" to majordomo@scirocco.org. If you experience other problems, email: scirocco-l-probs@scirocco.org