WD-40 is my favorite, it has worked for me even where oven cleaner was stumped! Plus you probably allready have some. Josh Lukasik 88 16v 2.0 -- To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe scirocco-l" to majordomo@scirocco.org. If you experience other problems, email: scirocco-l-probs@scirocco.org