RE: 16V upgrade opinions, please.

["Ryan Schuermann" <rts@nol.net>]

Well most of us have READ about ABDs naturally aspirated
caddy (truck) w/ 16v and carbs setup..runs in the 11s if I remember.

remember, power is money, just about any engine can be stroked to
it's limits and dropped into a superlight chassy to yield 11s, wether
its a big block chevy or a teeny 4 cylinder. You just have to front 
for all the engine work, the fuel system and ingition system, and 
frankly, unless youre doing it for a living to make money it really 
isn't worth the money to me. Oh the local drag strip newletter I got 
with my wonderfull 15$ admittence says someting about a 13sec Lexus

In my dreams, I'd love to own a show car, an auto-x car, a drag car
and a daily driver, and though I DO own a lot of vws, so far I have
only been able to convince the wife to get 2 outta the 4...hrm maybe 
I can convert that 86 rocco into my drag car, gotta rip 1/2 the kit 
off though...

 Ryan
damn I should goto bed, gotta get the 87 Jetta GL I just bought to 
the shop tomorrow to replace the muffler! woohoo a new toy

> Low 13's? Sheesh! I suppose if you dropped in a small-block Chevy...
> 
> In all seriousness, I didn't think that these little 4-bangers could do
> something like that. Low 13's is a long way from a stock 16.9. Then again,
> I'll be the first to admit that haven't spent any time on a drag strip
> myself. Is this really realistic to do without a forced-injection system of
> some sort? How much horsepower can you squeeze out of a normally-aspirated
> 16v, even if it is a 2.1? I've heard about the turbo-nitro-spinach-powered
> Rabbits that can do some amazing things (some guy was telling me about one
> that could do 11's), but they've all gone beyond the realm of "realistically
> streetable."
> 
> Neal
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-scirocco-L@scirocco.org
> > [mailto:owner-scirocco-L@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of the mad bastard
> > Sent: Sunday, October 04, 1998 4:40 PM
> > To: the only list that matters
> > Subject: 16V upgrade opinions, please.
> >
> >
> > alright, i had a VERY disappointing night yesterday.  it made me
> > realize one thing:  my car needs more power.
> >
> > 	what are my options, people.  i want to put my car into
> > the low 13s.
> > of course i do not want to do this tomorrow, but i want to know what i
> > can do.
> >
> > 	BTW, I DON'T WANT TO CONSIDER ANY KIND OF FORCED
> > INDUCTION (i.e. turbo,
> > supercharged, nitrous).  i want straight motor work.
> >
> > 	here's the skinny:  i have 2-door mk1 jetta GLI with a
> > 2.0 16V with a
> > P&P 1.8 head, a TT SS DP/Cat, stock 16V scirocco exhaust, and
> > a scorpion
> > rear box.  i've also got an intake pipe running in from the
> > front of the
> > car directly into my airbox which has been chopped completely out.
> >
> > 	with me in the car (180lbs...ouch), the car weighs
> > about 2380lbs.  i
> > have lowered the suspension about 2 - 2.5" from stock and
> > have the stock
> > 16V roc swaybars.  i'm also running some very thrashed 195-50-15 conti
> > aquacontacts.
> >
> > 	the car launches quite well, and i manage to pull ahead
> > of most people
> > until about midway thru second when the car just seems not to
> > pull with
> > such demand.
> >
> > 	i raced a 92 civic with a fully done gs-r motor last
> > night.  he ate me,
> > the mutherf*cker, and he had serious traction problems right up into
> > third gear...
> >
> > 	so what can i do?  i'd like to:
> >
> > 1. get a whole to fuel management system
> > 2. euro intake runners
> > 3. mad shrick cams (276†??)
> > 4. quaife (i know, i know, it doesn't make sense unless
> > you've got 300+
> > hp)
> > 5. freer-flowing exhaust maybe? (i still have the cat on there)
> > 6. balanced and blueprinted motor
> > 7. lightened flywheel
> > 8. pistons? connecting rods?
> >
> > 	any other suggestions or opinions on this list?
> >
> > 	oh yeah, can anyone tell me if there is any real
> > advantage to opening
> > the car up to a 2.1 or larger?  i mean, will the motor eat gobs of oil
> > and end up going kaput on me, or is it a fairly reliable
> > setup?  thanks
> > a million!
> >
> > jason
> > the mad bastard
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