RE: chassis designations - decipher please. (a1,a2,a3..)

[Paul Krucke <vwfan53@yahoo.com>]

---"Brubaker, John" <JBrubaker@AMF.com> wrote:
>
>> Paul wrote:
>> 
>> Hehehe, I just love rattling everyones cage. ;-)  BTW:  It is
actually
>> LESS key strokes to use SI & SII (you lose the 'k' in a Scirocco I).
>> Also, most vendor catalogs use this notation.
>> 
>> I should have used this list for my Psych research/papers when I was
>> going to school for Psychology.  Reasearch paper title "People set in
>> their ways" :-)
> 
> [jb] I don't usually respond to posts of this sort, but I'm not in a
great 
> mood and found this statement somewhat offensive.  I'm not sure why
this is 
> so, yet that's the way it is.  On this list and in my everyday
discussions 
> of VW's and Sciroccos I use the following STANDARD:
>

WOW! you are really proving my point!  You obviously missed the
emoticions ( :-) ;-) ) and the "all in good fun".

I have not had a good "all in fun" argument in a long time, so I think
I will continue on this note for "fun".
 
> A1 - Chassis Platform
> Mk1 & Mk2 - Body Style

This is clear and honestly I can accept it.
 
> This has nothing to do with something so petty as keystrokes, nor
does it 

Someone else pointed out keystrokes, so I chimed in.

> have to do with some close minded notion of being "set in my ways." 
It has 
> to do with having a STANDARD so that we are better able to
understand each 

Well now, are you speaking for everyone, or is this a personal
STANDARD?  If this is the standard why does just about every parts
vendor catalog refer to them as S1,S2 (i.e. Rapid Parts, Neuspeed,
ABD, Parts Place)??????????  Just because something may be a STANDARD
does not necessarily make it correct.

> other.  When I say Mk1, Shawn knows exactly what I am talking about.

Right, Shawn and I understand for example, [and this is my real reason
for being so rigid on this subject], a friend of mine converted to
Sciroccoism, after following some list posts I printed for him, he
went out and bought some A2/Mk2 (Golf/Jetta) parts for his 88 Scirocco
II.  He mis-interpreted how MkII was used on YES--THIS LIST.  Needless
to say the hassle and return shipping charge cost him about a week &
$50.00 in shipping charges.  

> When 
> someone says A1 when in reality he is talking about the earlier body
style 
> (up to '81) there is confusion.

You just contradicted yourself here, you mean Mk1 not A1 as A1 covers
both Mk1 & Mk2 Scirocco's according to your above mentioned
interpretation.


>  I particularly do not care to spend any 
> more time than necessary trying to figure out what someone is talking 
> about.  I am patient, but when I see posts that try to undermine this 
> STANDARD it sort of pisses me off because of the degenerative
effects it 
> has (i.e. - posts asking what the heck you are talking about).  I do
not 
> believe I am in the minority here.  This list is mainly for sharing a 
> common bond and helping each other.  Let's try to make this as 
> uncomplicated and understandable as possible.

"Degenerative effects" -- sorry, I let logic dictate in my case, and
the logic is simple.

1)  Vendors and many people outside the list I know use S1 & S2
2)  As many books seem to contradict the Mk designation over weather
it is truly a chasis or body designation, I feel drop the Mk in favor
for the simple 'A' chasis designation, and S1,S2 body designation,
thereby ending in all reality the confusion.
3)  Less key strokes :-) :-)
4)  By buddy would not have been confused and bought the wrong parts.




==
-Paul
http://home1.gte.net/vwfan
90 Audi 90 Quattro 20v
87 Scirocco 16v E-Stock
87 Jetta GLi
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