i tried it and it worked! this is too cool... is it just a glitch? some freak cross circuit thing? any other VW's that you can do this in? i betcha it's one of those "secret" things those wacky germans put in there...... chris 86 16V scirocco -- To subscribe or unsubscribe, send email to scirocco-L-request@scirocco.org, with your request (subscribe, unsubscribe) in the BODY of the message.