RE: super trap

["Crane, Damien" <d3c@TENNANTCO.com>]

A very quick local guy autocrosses a Probe with a Supertrapp.  On that car
(4 cam V6) it sounds fabulous!  It has a wail that makes it sound like he is
winding out to about 10 grand.  Makes me wonder if he has a chip (in G
Stock).  I've heard them sound really good on a Porsche six as well.  One of
the National lever rally guys (Jeff Zwart--ever seen his photos?  Some are
very cool) ran a 911 C4 in with an Andial built motor.  He had dual
Supertrapps on it.  I know it _seems_ like it would flow poorly even with
quite a few disks on there, but I don't think it works out that way in
reality.  (reality is complicated).

> ----------
> From: 	Chris Coracini[SMTP:Coracin@usdl.com]
> Sent: 	Wednesday, December 09, 1998 8:41 AM
> To: 	'scirocco list'; 'Geordy'
> Subject: 	RE: super trap
> 
> twern't dissin it without any reason.  i've read articles about it both
> in mags and on the net (sorry i can't remember where, i surf a lot), and
> i also took 3 years worth of M.E. in college (fluid dynamics, flow
> theory....).  in order to get good flow through a super trapp you need
> to add many shims, at which point it's so loud you might is well not
> even have it on there at all.  i'll grant the "tunability" of it, and it
> is nice to just remove the end piece and have a straight pipe in about a
> minute.  but for upwards of $250 (just for the trapp), you can get a
> complete cat-back system of equal if not better (IMHO) performance....
> and you're right, it does sound like a weed wacker.  so if that's the
> sound you're looking for, by all means go ahead and get one...
> 
> chris
> 86 16V scirocco  
> 
> >----------
> >From: 	Geordy[SMTP:geordy@lodgepole.com]
> >Sent: 	Tuesday, December 08, 1998 6:36 PM
> >To: 	scirocco list
> >Subject: 	Re: super trap
> >
> >Don't be dissing the Trapp you don't understand.  With a cam behind that
> >bad boy it's music to my ears.  For all of you who look you "deep mellow
> >note", I love my brother's "weed eater"  It sounds great and looks great
> >too.  The Trapp Rocks the house for sure.  It's also cool cause you
> >could take it to a race, pull all of the shims and the endcap for an
> >open pipe, advance the timing, add race fuel and viola!  It's also nice
> >not to be at the mercy of the exhaust company to do all of your tuning
> >for you.  How the hell do they know if you like more torque or topend
> >anyway?
> >
> >Chris Coracini wrote:
> >> 
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Super trap muffler on a scirocco 16V???   have you seen it?
> >> >
> >> >Yep, seen it. Loud. Sounds like a gokart. Maybe a little more free
> flowing
> >> >than stock.
> >> 
> >> super traps suck.  although they are adjustable, in order to get any
> >> flow, you have to add shims until it's way loud, and it's not a "nice"
> >> sounding loud at all.  if it's quiet enough for the street (still not
> >> that quiet), the flow is at best the same as stock, probably worse.
> >> think about it.... all the exhaust has to squeeze out between the
> little
> >> space in between the shims...
> >> 
> >> chris
> >> 86 16V scirocco
> >> >
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