hey i just thought this might be of interst to someone out there, but tonight there was some show on TLC that featured new innovative cars and they had a section on it about vw's new w12 roadster. i think it'll air again at 12 or 12:30am est. -alan 87 16v -- To subscribe or unsubscribe, send email to scirocco-L-request@scirocco.org, with your request (subscribe, unsubscribe) in the BODY of the message.