RE: Wheels vs.power, now Toyos suck

[Rich Deede <rdeed@UDel.Edu>]

I too have the Dunlop D40 M2's and  love them as well.  Grippy as all
heck.  BUT, they are now discontinued and I have heard from more than one
person that the sp8000's are actually not as strong as the M2's.  In terms
of tread life and grip.




Rich Deede
University Of Delaware (Communications)
1987 Scirocco 16v

"Think about how dumb the average person is, and then remember that half
the population is EVEN stupider!"....George Carlin
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On Wed, 2 Dec 1998, Crane, Damien wrote:

> I have found the Dunlop D40M2 (195/55 14) to have a lot of grip.  On dry
> pavement, they were a huge improvement over Yokohama's all
> season/performance 185/60.  Decent in rain too.  _Completely_  useless on
> snow, tho--not even enough grip to be fun.  SP8000 should be even better.
> 
> > ----------
> > From: 	Wm. Josiah Erikson[SMTP:josiah@gsinet.net]
> > Sent: 	Tuesday, December 01, 1998 11:29 PM
> > To: 	EurotekVW@aol.com
> > Cc: 	scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > Subject: 	Re: Wheels vs.power, now Toyos suck
> > 
> > I'm personally quite happy with my Dunlop SP Sport 4000 A/S tires. I
> > wanted a tire
> > that would be good in the dry (but not optimal, of course), good in the
> > wet, and
> > tolerable in the snow. I haven't tried snow yet, but they have
> > considerably more
> > dry grip than my old 60 series 14" Dunlop D60A2's (well, duh, they'd
> > better), and
> > in the rain, they're awesome. They corner better in the rain than any 14"
> > tire
> > I've ever driven on corners in the dry. But I've never driven a really
> > excellent
> > 14" tire, I guess. What do you people all think is the best-gripping 14"
> > tire for
> > the street? A509? AVS Intermediate, maybe?
> >     -Josiah
> >     '84 GTI
> >     '86 Scirocco 8v (buy me!)
> >     '87 QSW
> >     http://www.gsinet.net/~josiah
> > 
> > EurotekVW@aol.com wrote:
> > 
> > > Here's my two cents, since they're my tires. I bought them for a few
> > reasons.
> > > One...price. Two...Longevity. They have excellent treadwear for a
> > performance
> > > tire. They,  by far, are not my choice for ultimate dry adhesion. They
> > give
> > > ample dry traction for day to day driving. Mine haven't given out under
> > > rigorous driving, but do cry from time to time. Three...They are
> > excellent in
> > > the wet. I can fly w/o care down the interstate in a downpour. Remember
> > > guys...I live in FL. The roads are hotter. Too soft a compound and it
> > gets
> > > expensive replacing tires. Plus, it rains enough where I seriously care
> > how a
> > > tire handles in the wet. Of course there are better tires out there. I
> > have
> > > yet to find another tire that offers me an adequate balance of the three
> > req's
> > > I want. Price, dry/wet traction, and treadwear. If there's one, lemme
> > > know...I'm willing to try it next time around. Peace out.
> > >
> > > Frank
> > >
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