RE: Worst experience with Toyota Dealer

["Jeff Wheeler" <j_dubbya@classic.msn.com>]

Depends.  The fun  'n'  friendly folks at Dildo Motors are likely to argue 
that you had an option contract, meaning that the $20 was the consideration to 
ensure that the deal would remain available to you for x amount of time.  Were 
this true , the only circumstance under which you'd get your $$ back would be 
that the car you'd selected got sold prior to the end of the option period.  

You'd be arguing that you'd placed a refundable deposit for a specific car, 
and then opted not to avail yourself of that. In my state, pressing that 
argument will cost you at least $25 just to get in front of the magistrate 
(mind you, you can win that $25 back if'n you prove your case and remember to 
ask for fees).  Did you give them a $20, or did you write a check/swipe a 
card? If the latter, stop payment.

You could easily end up spending more than you recoup here -- the better 
retaliation is to make certain everyone you know is aware of what terminal 
c***suckers these people are; that'll cost 'em a lot more than $25.

In my varied career options, I've both tried to cause and solve this very 
situation; I'm not particularly proud of either.  Best advice -- steer clear 
of this sort of s***.


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From: 	owner-scirocco-l@mantis.privatei.com on behalf of MIKE
Sent: 	Saturday, September 27, 1997 7:15 PM
To: 	scirocco-l@privateI.com
Subject: 	Fw: Worst experience with Toyota Dealer

Does anyone know anything my friends can do about this?


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>> From: sratja <sratja@ibm.net>
>> Newsgroups: alt.autos.toyota
>> Subject: Worst experience with Toyota Dealer
>> Date: Thursday, September 25, 1997 4:14 PM
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>> I don't know how many of you have had this experience.
>> I just took my father to a local Toyota-Mazda dealer here
>> in Lancaster PA(Lancaster Toyota-Mazda) and had the worst experience
>> of buying a vehicle.  Initially we went in with a competitive price 
>> from another dealer and they said they would match it.  The salesman
>> proceeds to itemize the equipment options and total up the price(
>> including tax and registration), then we said that we would think 
>> about it and let him know the next day. I don't know about everyone else
>> ,but I have a hard time making a $30,000 decision in 5 minutes. The
>> salesman keep haggling us, saying that if we want the
>> vehicle we would need to put a deposit down.  We said that we
>> still would want to think about it and if the vehicle is sold before
>> we got there then that's fine.  Then he said how about just put $500
>> dollars down and we can come back and get our money back if we change
>> our mind.  We said no.  He said how about $100?  I said we don't even
>> have a check book with us.  We told him we  still need
>> to think about it first.  Then he said, Look how about just $20 deposit
>> so I can show my manager that I am trying.  Since we were naive and
>> was sick of the haggling, we gave in.  I figured I work only 2 miles
>> down the road from the dealership, I can just stop by and get our $20.
>> 
>> Well, the next day my parents stop by at another dealer who gave them
>> a much better deal.  I called Lancaster Toyota to tell them that 
>> we will not buying from them.  The Manager of Lancaster Toyota called
>> me up and threaten a lawsuit, saying that we have a breach of contract.
>> We have not even decided to buy or discussed any financial arrangement.
>> Now they keep calling us everyday to try to get us to go over to the
>> dealership.  I don't think I will be buying a vehicle from Lancaster
>> Toyota ever..
>> 
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Mike Weiler
1984 rococo 8v 16v kit installed 131k (need minor interior parts).
Please e-mail me with any parts you may have extra and pricing.

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