Re: To bore, stroke, and breathe

[trnsfrma@ix.netcom.com (Shawn C. Meze)]

At 05:30 PM 6/18/97 -0400, you wrote:
>If you would like a bit more, maybe a minor port and polish job. Even the 
>1.8l head will respond well to porting. The trick of porting it is to 
>gain everywhere from lowend to high. A euro intake cam is a good all 
>around, for a bit more, mod an exhaust cam to work as the intake.

Well, really, I dont see where porting the 1.8L head would gain much. The 
1.8L head already flows quite well. I think that if anybody wanted to go into 
the ports and port match AND clean up the passageways a bit with a mild 
polish job, that would be a little beneficial. Unless you have a flow bench 
to trully know if you are actually making the head flow better or worse, your 
wasting yout time anyways. (Unless of course you meant to send the head out 
for a P&P job. Well, thats different, isnt it!) 


>When you get into boring and stroking the lower end, things can start to 
>become quite expensive. I recently spoke with Franz at Velocity, he said 
>he was installing 86mm pistons on his 16V engine, can you say rev? Don't 
>know how he'll fit those in there...


Right. Then your talking about buying a new or even in some cases having a 
custom crank built. (Cha-ching) There are a few "Tuners" (Mannix isnt around 
so I can throw that word out as often as I want! <G> ) that sell a stroker 
kit.

Autotech has a 2.0L 16V kit (8V too, for those remotely interested) for a 
measily $1,700. Its a 83.5mm bore, 92.8mm stroke kit. The 2.1L 16V kit is 
only $2,200. Its a 83.5mm bore, 95.5mm stroke kit. Oh, its for the 2.0L b
lock only, but if you got a 2.0L, whadda deal, huh? Now, keep in mind that 
this includes everything except instalation and all of the other gaskets you 
would need to RR the motor and install. 

Hmm, juast opened my TT catelog. Their 2.0L kit is only $995.  Its a 1984cc 
82.5mm bore, 92.8mm stroke kit.

Velocity has a kit for $884.00. YIPES! you can get a 12.1 comp pistons with 
their kit! Wowzers! The only downfall I see is they dont list a 16V kit. 


>I'd say for a realistic, affordable street engine, stay with the stock 
>2.0l bottom end (perhaps have it balanced). A minor porting job to the 
>1.8l head, your choice of cam, and the stock intake. Ofcourse you should 
>match port everything too. The 50mm intake is a high end hp piece, maybe not 
>what you are after, but you can always easily upgrade to it later.


I agree. for the easiest way to bolt on displacement, finding a 2.0L short 
block and rebuilding it may be the cheapest route. Velocity also sells the 
short block with the kit basically in it for the same as what Autotech 
was asking for the kit alone. So your only cost after that would be a gasket 
set and a new belt, the usual new parts you would want with a new motor. 
Interesting, huh? Dam, too bad the credit cards are full, or id get me a 
Velocity 8V 2.0L kit with 12.1 comp pistons!!! Hey Mike, we gotta install 
that knock sensor!!


Shawn
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